The Rock 'n' Roll Porter

 Okay, so why did it not work before? And it should be working now. Um, so you had an input selected, okay. Because you were, you're taking on those channel strips on the top channels wanted to, that, that's where your mic inputs are going. Uhhuh, but those were not being assigned to. Tracks essentially. Mm. You wanna think of digital tracks?

Mm. Uh, in the fader section. Okay. So that you can think of the fader as the output. So you can have the input going into those mic strips on top, but you have to direct it somewhere. If you don't direct it somewhere, it's not actually being recorded. And, and of course you can't play it back if it hasn't been recorded.

So, so just, you know, think of the red light recording. Yeah. I'm just gonna do this. I, I, the way I'm going to do it is I, I'm gonna say to myself, there's four little dots that need to turn red, right? Yeah, no. And then that works, works. And that's all I need to know for now. That works. Just back the four little dots and then I hit record and the record button stays on and then play.

Then I, it takes it a second, and then it starts doing its little thing. Make sure you see the counter. You know the counter is like you, you're seeing your tape reels are moving. Yeah, essentially. And then if I wanted to stop it, let's say if I have to stop, I have to go upstairs urgently in a minute, and then it'll, that recording will stay and then I can hit record again and it'll keep going.

Try it right now. And how much time do I have? Try it right now. If you hit stop. I'm pretty sure you will not yet. Look where your counter is. I just have to hit stop. I don't have to hit like record. Stop. Just stop. Yep. I need just hit Okay. Now it started again. Yep. So I hit stop. Yep. And then why does it take it a second to start recording?

Why isn't it instant? Um, not maybe a little countdown or, or something. Yeah. Uh, it, it, it actually, it probably is giving a four count click. Um, that's probably, uh, uh, an option Oh, that, that I could, uh, disable. Um, But of course if you don't have, uh, the click turned up, I'll just count it in my head and be like, I mean, I'll do it the call way like four, three, two point.

Well, and, and that's kind of the, you know, of course you can use it for podcasts, but it's, it's thinking in terms of music as well. So there is actually. Uh, there is a tempo associated with this project. It's, you know, it's like a default or whatever. Um, it's meaningless to us, but if we, it does that, it has drums in there, and if you were to put down drums right now, they would be in accordance with the tempo of the track it, even though we're just, you know, obviously speaking over it in freeform.

All right. Let's stop for just a sec. All right. Good. Okay, so that was about, I think it's about four. I was probably counting too fast for six. Next time I'll do it. I'll do it with a, like the, um, stopwatch on my phone, but I think it's probably four. So, Oh, well, I, I, I'm, I think it's almost certainly for it, it just depends.

Yeah, its speed is gonna be based on whatever the default temple is. Probably like one 20 or something. Okay. So anyway, the dogs are crossing their legs, all four legs. So I just wanted to get this, um, recorded because this is what I wanna do pretty much every day at some point. Yeah. Um, I wanna talk about what's on my mind in the morning.

Mm-hmm. I wanna talk about what we need to get done today. And then I think we should also try and record our two o'clocks, because I think if we're gonna archive our journey here, I wanna, it's fun to look back and go, wow, that's what we were worried about six months ago. Right. You know? Um, okay. So

also for this, this is. Obviously you change your behavior, the way you change your talk, the way that you talk when you're being recorded. So this is just, yep. Not the way that we would be talking to each other if we were sitting on the couch, but I think that that's the point of this experiment or whatever.

But, um, what I was talking to you about was, uh, a Rogan episode where, uh, Now I'm already wanting to grab my phone and go look at these guys' names. Mm-hmm. Um, so maybe I'll go do that really quickly. You can do it, I guess it doesn't matter. Um, uh, yeah. So it's this guy that has my dream nightmare job where he gets wrongly convicted people out of prison.

And, um, the person that he had on in this episode had been in jail for 29 years. His story. Goes as follows, that he woke up one morning to help his girlfriend get a new Halloween costume for his girlfriend's daughter, and then the next day he's hauled into jail for the next 29 years. Convicted by a corrupt prosecutor who also ended up going to jail for his corruption.

For a murder he didn't commit, had absolutely nothing to do with, and this man is incredibly intelligent, incredibly articulate, and I felt like the lawyer that got him out of jail, I. Put a little bit too much emphasis on that. You know, like it felt kind of patronizing, like almost on display. Look how intelligent he is.

Mm-hmm. Look at those big words he just used. You know, and I know that wasn't his intention, but I think that this man so desperately sees the waste of life behind bars. Yep. And maybe he just needs to, feels like he needs to overemphasize this. To get people to realize how bad this problem is. And that will, uh, that was occurring after the, uh, uh, you know, uh, after he is exonerated the, the look how intelligent this, I'm saying that.

Well, it was just, it's not part of the marketing campaign to let's get this guy out of jail. That's the, it's over and done with. He's out of jail. Look, we did the right thing sort of thing. Yeah. I'm not sure. Okay. Which, but, um, you know, my absolute. I am especially panicked and terrified about the idea of being incarcerated, and the main reason is I don't know how you would ever sleep in a situation like this.

And indeed, the man that he released said, In a maximum security prison. There's just these endless, they call them galleries with these endless corridors. Yep. In concrete of reverberating noise of a, you know, people attacking each other, mentally ill, men screaming. I don't know how I would even survive that for one night.

And he lived like that for 29 years. So the story about this person surviving this is that he had the mental fortitude to, um, His word was introspect, constantly meditation, stay inside his head. He educated himself absolutely to the max with the materials that were available to him. Um, and he, uh, did, you know, tons of really amazing programs within the prison.

And this guy spent 29 years of his life in Sing Sing in Clinton. And the the worst. Maximum security jails, and it is modern day slavery. We all know this, they're forced to work. If you don't make furniture or make hand sanitizer or whatever it is that they tell you to make for 10, 16 cents an hour, you get thrown in the box in in solitary confinement.

Um, I just hope that this guy gets millions and millions and millions of dollars. Um, wait, wait. You're saying there's mandatory labor? Yeah. Uh,

so the story that he tells is you have to get up at six in the morning. Yeah. And you, you have to do all this stuff. And there was one specific scenario that he shared where there were a group of men. That were assigned to build a thing and they opened up the crates and it was like bars to build more prisons.

Right. And they're like, we're not going to do this. Okay. But, but there's, there's have, sorry, there's have to do this. Like, if I don't do this, it's really not gonna be, you know, very convenient for me. Uh, Versus have to do this, like, you know, I will go to solitary confinement or I will have, uh, additional time tacked onto my sentence.

Yeah. I don't think for the most part, like, uh, well, I, I don't know. I, I, I mean, the point that I'm making is that, you know,

It was like that story that we saw on TV before of that kid in St. Petersburg who was incredibly, horribly abused by his mother or his aunt, or his grand, I think it was his grandmother actually. He was already mentally compromised. Mm-hmm. And then he goes to this homeless encampment and I think stabs somebody out of confusion or self-defense.

And now he is in jail for the rest of his life. I mean, this is, I, it's amazing to me and terrifying to me that there are millions of people. In prison in the United States. Yeah. Basically for no other reason than the circumstance of their birth and the, the circumstances of the geography of their birth.

And he was also saying that, um, that I, I'm, I'm totally making this up, but the majority of people in New York City who are put in jail come from seven neighborhoods, you know, in the Bronx or right. And so these are people that are born into very, very little chance generation after generation. Um, and I, I.

I don't, I dunno, I just feel like every time there's a riot or they burn something down, I'm like, good. Do more, do more of that. You deserve it. You know, my God, I, I think the, you know, how did this happen sort of thing. What, you know, quote drove this person to this, whatever. I, those are interesting questions, but I don't really think that's, uh, the purpose of the criminal justice system.

Uh, and I certainly don't think it's what. Correctional facilities should be about. I mean, they, uh, they, oh, didn't this person, there's no such thing as correctional though. Well, I'm just saying that's the euphemism, and again, I'm not sure that that's, uh, a well, uh, designed idea to begin with. I, I think that it's much easier to not even deal with the question of, um, is this person.

You know, uh, now fit forced. I, I think it's much easier to think purely in terms of punitive. Um, the purpose of the criminal justice system is to punish, you know, criminal acts. You don't have to say, um, is this person you know now fit? Um, have they instead been, you know, has this experience been. So damaging, uh, that they're no longer fit for society.

I think that's a perhaps related question, but it has nothing to do with the core idea of these are the, you know, this is a criminal act, uh, based on the best available information I'm talking about under the, the best circumstances, you know, um, a jury that appears has found this person to be culpable for this act.

It is now the state's responsibility. Whether, and that includes, in a sense, all citizens of the state have said, uh, you know, defacto that this something must happen, this act under our criminal code. This is a punishable offense, and now somebody has to, you know, be punished for this. Yeah. But my idea is that the crime that this person committed was being born.

When your grandmother is maybe only 35 years old, And you have no role models and your role models had no role models and there's no education for you, and you live in a scary, horrible situation. You know, he said poverty is violence, and I totally agree with that. That's the crime. I mean, this is. It, it's, it's horrific to me that you were born into a situation where your destiny is almost certainly going to, um, um, involve time.

I just, and, and yet it doesn't, almost certainly, because of course to say that, but do not, not use the exception to prove the rule. That's what you're about to do. I would say that that's exactly what you're doing. No, it's not because, uh, it, it's one thing to say that whatever the numbers are, uh, You know, 80% of, uh, everyone in prison, in, you know, state prison in, uh, New York comes from 20% of the neighborhoods or whatever.

It's quite different to say that, um, 80% of people from these neighborhoods, uh, are in prison. And that's not the case in any neighborhood anywhere in the United States or the world. Yeah. But one out of 10 black men are in jail right now in America, so, Yes, I believe that that's the statistic. And uh, of the other nine, many of them were raised in those same neighborhoods.

Yeah. But they've also probably at some point also at least been arrested or had a confrontation with the cops. Um, my point, like, my point is that if I had it to do all over again, I think I would've chosen a career where I go into these communities, especially with young women. And help, like it would for me would always be about the young women.

Get them educated. Get them supported. Yeah. Get them the, the, um, the mental support that they need. Give them love, um, and keep them from getting pregnant and just, you know, and this is why I love Caroline Williams, who I wanna have on the show, um, on the podcast. Mm-hmm. Because this is exactly what she's doing.

And she's such a like, um, Uh, compassion with consequences type person. She's tough and she doesn't put up with any shit. And sometimes people get bounced outta her program, you know? But most of, most of the people, the young people that she works with are successful. They complete it and I'm like, my God, I wanna be a part of that somehow.

Yep. You know? And she cries all the time. I love Caroline cuz she's, so, I don't think we've ever had a conversation where she doesn't tear up. You know? Yeah. I, I love that about her. That's extraordinary. Yeah. It's not extraordinary. It should be more normal, you know, considering what she's immersed in every day.

Um, perhaps, anyway, I'm not saying that that crying is the most useful Yeah. Activity. But, um, you know, it's one thing to Yeah. Feel bad about someone's situation or to be empathetic or sympathetic, but, um, I'm not sure exactly what the, it's just scratching an itch, Michael. That's, it's no different. Uh, yeah, but you can't always scratch the itch.

That's how things get infected or, you know, just, just, you deal with the, you know, just cuz the mosquito bite's bothering you, you just leave it alone. Like it's not gonna go away just by scratching if I'm crying. I don't need you to scratch my itch for me. I just need you to like, you know, Watch me, scratch my itch.

Or you can leave the room fine. No, you're scratching your own itch, right? That's what I Yeah. You're just, but you don't have to feel uncomfortable. Desperately horrifically. I wanna like, jump out this window Uncomfortable. I don't feel uncomfortable. It's just, you do. It's, it's just kind of a lower brain, you know?

It, it's just kind of an animalistic uh, impulse. Uh, we're the only animal that cries. Uh, yeah, but I'm just saying we can, there's nothing animalistic about emotions. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Uh, well now we're talking about the internal, the actual experience of emotion versus the outward. You just equate the expression of emotion with weakness or some sort of intellectual failing.

No, I, I don't necessarily do that, but I'm just saying that it's important, I think, to distinguish between the emotion itself versus the outward manifestation, the crying, you know, if you want to, you know, quote, cry on the inside, that's one thing, but. When you are expressing the emotion, um, you are burdening your fellow humans to respond.

No. Uh, to your outward man, anybody. You're not burdening somebody. That's, that's the key. So it's your emotion that, that your emotion is discomfort, awkwardness, embarrassment when you're witnessing somebody cry. So you've decided that you don't think that crying is a communicative. Activity. It, it is not.

Yes. But it doesn't mean that I'm burdening you with the, with it's up to you to decide if you wanna feel awkward or embarrassed about watching somebody cry, why are you communicating it? Then why not shout into the void? You know, go cry in a cave or around, uh, you know, so am I, so if I laugh or if I'm happy, am I burdening you with my emotion?

Uh, laughter I think it's generally thought of as a positive. You know, that's like a, I mean, I suppose part of it is just, you know, social. Norms. So, you know, the idea of, uh, people getting together to laugh, um, that happens. And I suppose there are groups that sort of get together to cry. Um, I'm not sure that's necessarily a good idea, but it, it, I suppose it happens, but if I see Caroline crying, I don't perceive that as negative.

I don't feel that she's, you know, introduced a negative. Vibe into, you know, the room or the conversation that we're having. Yeah. I'm not sure it's necessarily negative, but it is. Um, do, do you not consider crying a somewhat personal expression? Aren't all expressions personal? Uh, I think the less, um, Subjective and internalized.

The ideas are, uh, the, the more, uh, excuse me, the, the less, which way did it go? The, the more personal, it's, so if you just go with, you know, whatever expressions we're talking about, um, just discussing, uh, objective fact or something like that, that's not personal. That's the purpose of the objectivity is to form consensus.

But with internal or, you know, uh, more personalized ideas, uh, I feel bad enough to cry or I feel good enough to laugh. If you wanna put it in those very simplistic terms, um, those are much more subjective, I think. Right, but, and that way sort of isolating. Wouldn't you feel if I, if I, if you had told me the story about an innocent man who was in the worst.

Incarceration conditions for 29 years for a crime he didn't commit. And I laughed hysterically at that. Wouldn't that make you feel uncomfortable? Uh, only slightly more so than you crying about it. Okay. I mean, a, a person that you don't know. Yeah. It's like you, you can in the abstract say, oh, this is, you know, unfortunate.

Um, the world, uh, doesn't. Especially have, uh, our, you know, human interests or needs in mind. And that's true. I would say the world is rather indifferent to it, and it's not good for people to be indifferent to it. But, um, I think for the most part, when people are wrongly convicted, it's not, you know, cause uh, whatever, I can't wait to get that Mumia guy or whatever.

Uh, well that's not even a wrongful conviction, but, uh, you know, I think it, it's more about just kind of sloppiness or in some cases, you know, with sort of overzealous prosecution, it's about, you know, career building. Uh, and obviously you have to, you know, portray this. I'm tough on crime, I'm gonna put the bad guys.

And it usually is the guys, uh, behind bars. Uh, I don't necessarily think that those people are, you know, misguided or evil. They, they're not, I don't think people are evil, uh, but uh, they're doing what they think is right. But, you know, things, there will be things that sort of get lost in the shuffle along the way.

Um, it is ideological and that's what makes it problematic, but I don't think it's, the system is conspiring against these guys that came from this neighborhood in New York. When I cry in front of you, yeah, your discomfort, embarrassment, awkwardness is on full display. Those are also emotions. So then I feel like I shouldn't cry around Michael, because I'm protecting you from your emotional response to my emotional response.

So who's, who has the more. Reasonable and logical reaction in that instance. You know, if I'm crying over the horrible state of the world, or if I see on TV of, you know, fricking, you know, starving bear in a cage and that makes me cry, you are more upset over me crying than you are seeing the same thing on TV that I just saw.

I'm not as experienced with it as, as some people. Uh, so, and I'm, I cry all the time. You can be more experienced if you never get better. No, I, I meant with the actual crying activity. Yeah. So do people like to, what, what's the preference? Do people like to cry more in, uh, a community? You like to like, you know, cry in a group?

Uh, or do you like to cry alone? What are you talking about? What, what I'm saying is that what, what is the purpose of the crying? Is it to feel better for yourself or is it an attempt to, uh, you know, communicate how you're feeling to someone else? Um, is that more cathartic to, to, you know, share the crying to, to, uh, share the discomfort, to share the mystery?

What's the point of laughing at something that's funny? Why not keep your laughter inside? Laugh on the inside rather than, well, the distinction I'm trying to make here is, uh, I don't know. Is it better to laugh in private or in public? Uh, I'm not sure. I think it's better to laugh in public and I think it's better.

I think it's better. I. We all get more comfortable with somebody crying and express physically expressing that emotion. Um, as we are comfortable with people laughing in public, I'm fine with, you know, everyone doing what they want. So if, uh, everyone in the crying group enjoys crying in front of each other, then have at it all right?

But I think that that's, I think probably most societies. Uh, crying is generally considered a kind of a personal experience and experience. I think that's because we don't like looking at people crying. The sound of crying is unpleasant. People's faces get kind of ugly and weird when they're crying. It doesn't look good.

It doesn't sound good, you know? But let's flip it around. We were just talking about Kamala Harris, who has that horrible toothy. Giggly laugh that she can't seem to control. Sure. In very inappropriate moments. Pretty much every moment it's like, stop that. What are you doing? You know? Yeah. That makes me feel more awkward.

And embarrassed for her as a woman. Cuz let's face it like, you know, crying is considered, you know, a weak or womanly thing you know to do unless you're like an Italian who like expresses her emotions and it's considered, you know, something different. I mean, the ultimate stereotypes that we need to overcome right now.

Sure. But that one man, you know, the nervous giggle, oh, no matter who's doing it, there isn't anything more creepy. I'd rather see her. Just, you know, shed a, a dignified, you know, Barack Obama tear then, then whatever that is, you know, my god. An onion necklace tear. Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I mean I just, I don't think that she has people around her apparently that say no, but I'm just saying no, we're talking about emotions right now.

So doesn't that make you feel uncomfortable when she does that? Don't you feel like lose, let me say this. I think that that whatever credibility she has, and she's never had a lot with me com is even more undermined by that display. Yeah. Than, you know, if she were to right to cry. Well, I mean, I, I feel the same level of discomfort as I do with whatever, when I see, you know, W's floundering cuz he's talking about sovereignty or whatever.

Mm-hmm. Uh, or. Um, you know, biden's, whatever, stumbling over corn pop stories or something. So it, it's, it's that same kind of, wow, you know, I can't believe one, that this is happening and one, I can't believe that it's televised or whatever. Mm-hmm. So, uh, yeah, it, it's just that, that level of discomfort. And in the case of, you know, Harris, who is a contemporary politician, I, I would've thought that some of this stuff had been, you know, kind of.

Focus grouped and that there's a, you know, a network around them enough to say, Hey, this, you know, we weren't pulled this. Definitely don't do that. Um, so, you know, just that, that's not testing. Well, please, please don't do that anymore. Uh, but, you know, maybe there are, you know, more genuine threads. Uh, and the, uh, political, well, where am I going with this?

So, uh, May be being a little cynical about it, uh, to say that I can't believe that we see this, uh, outward expression of this person. Uh, I would've thought for sure that, um, their people would've said, don't, don't do that. I remember on Hillary Clinton's campaign, there was a moment that was televised where they were in some, they're on the campaign paint trail.

They were in some pizza shop. And she's, she'd just done some abortions in the basement. No, Michael. Oh, yeah. Oh right. Yeah. No, yeah. Eaten. She's just eaten some babies for lunch, right in the basement of the pizza shop. Right. And she starts crying, and you can tell that it's just from sheer exhaustion, and this is sort of a Brene Brown thing.

But in that moment, I thought it was inappropriate to televise, to record and televise that because I. That's a leadership moment where in that case, you should cry behind closed doors because that doesn't get anybody anywhere When you are so tired and exhausted that you're getting a bit weepy. In that case, because it's a, it's a leadership thing.

There are times when, you know, the appropriate level of vulnerability needs to be exposed for the right reasons, over the right topics, and there are times when it's not. And that is a time when I don't think that you should show that aspect of you, because as a leader, you can say to your team, Hey, I'm really tired.

You're really tired too. It's that Dutch thing of, of, of, of which I love about the Dutch. With those types of emotions to say, I'm really angry about this, or I'm really, I'm, boy, I'm really exhausted. It's making me feel a bit emotional. Or I'm really, they'll say I'm really angry or frustrated about this, versus expressing that anger by yelling or swearing or whatever in a professional moment.

I, you know, I love that about Dutch culture, actually. Mm-hmm. That's something that should have happened in that case. Um, That's interesting to me cuz it, it sort of sounds like you're distinguishing between, um, kind of crying just because of the Well, I would think of it more like my body is crying.

Mm-hmm. Cause I am, you know, exhausted and this is just kind of what's happening, like almost reflexively, like, you know, tap on the knee and the the leg goes out sort of thing. Yes. Versus the um, I'm gonna have a good cry or whatever. Yeah. I'm gonna put on Steel Magnolias or something that, that sort of thing.

Steel Magnolias. Well, is that Michael? I think people cry at that, right? Yeah. Or Band of Brothers. You know, what did grandpa say? Absolutely. Yeah. So, um, yes, that's a very good, thank you, Michael. That's a very good distinction. Thank you. Not because if you're a leader and you have to give a big presentation and you have a horrible cold Yeah.

Fill your body with cold medicine. Nobody needs to see you blowing your nose and sneezing and you know, yes, it was a physical reaction. Which is, you know, and I do that all the time. I get really weepy and cry. I'm like, okay, I'm just exhausted. You know, I'm, my emotional response to things right now is oversized compared to the, the stimuli.

And you're saying in that case that sort of undermines the leadership Yes. Potential of that person. Yeah. Okay. That, that, that's interesting. Yeah. Good, good, good. Because I would say that the other one is to my mind, sort of undermines their leadership potential because it's so obviously, I. Manipulative.

Mm. And you know, look at, you know, they're crying at the whatever David NI's refrigerator type situation. I mean, it's a very, you know, uh, William Hurtz type. Okay, hold on. Or that guy that got on Skype, but he is laying off his half his company and he cries cuz it's so upsetting to him. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Not appropriate. No one cares. Yeah. Wait, just, I've forgotten In that, um, uh, Second season, uh, first episode of the office. Yeah. Uh, Brent has to lay off his PA and he's very upset. Yeah. He's dealing with it and it turns out Don can do most of the work or he has some good news because he's not losing his job.

Right. Right. Anybody can be happy news. Yeah. He's got some good news. Yeah. Um, alright, so badness and everybody, excuse me. Anyway, point is I really admire Caroline Williams. I'm gonna have her on the show. I wanna get involved. What she's doing in the smallest way, because I have no idea what I'm doing as she does there.

But I feel like, especially with women, you know, this is something that, um, I feel like I need to contribute to, to feel good about myself. It's always been an instinct. With young boys too. Raise your boys. Right? Raise some. Just say be careful about your essentialism though. Maybe mean the idea of, you know, inherent womanness.

This is not very fashionable these days. I don't care what's fashionable. That's as evidenced by your clothing. All right. About finish. Hey. All right. Um, It's post Corona. There is, the lines have been blurred between streetwear and pajamas. So you're the one that started the pants jammas movement. Anyway, Michael, um, so for our listeners, of which there are zero except for the fly buzzing around in here, Michael and invented the term pants jammas, which most of the men in my life were like, well, yeah, which is an article of.

Trouser esque clothing that can be worn to sleep in, but also you can get away with wearing the mountain public pants. Jammas. This was Precor by the way. Michael came up with pants Jammas. Okay. But I mean, it, it's, I didn't come up with the idea. Uh, you coined the term pants jammas. It was. But it, it, it came out of the specific, so I, I, I own a garment.

It was bought for me by Beth, as most of my clothes are. Um, it's a pair of Eddie Bauer. Uh, I guess, we'll, we'll say that they go on the lower half of your body and they have, you know, two tubes, uh, for your legs. Um, but. They are rather thick, uh, you know, material, which seems somewhat like a, a winter pajama.

However, they do have a zippered pocket, uh, on the the bum, which rather seems like something that's not. Needed if you're just going to be sleeping in. So, so, yes, on the one hand they seem like pajamas because they seem inappropriate, uh, for going out to the, uh, home improvement store. However, that zippered pocket in the back, I think makes a very strong argument for the home improvement store.

Also, you use the pants as, um, long underwear. They're really thick. There are many, many pictures of us where we're, you know, taking a weekend up inter skilling or somewhere a bit chilly. And, uh, and my girlfriends will be like, why does Michael have such like puffy legs? And I'm like, well, cuz he's got these, his, his pet, she is underneath his, his, um, his jeans.

They're noticeably thicker than, uh, I should find the, the mod. I, I can't believe they still. They're getting very thin now. Yeah. Uh, and thread, you got your money's worth out of those. I do have, um, yeah. It, it's an Eddie Bauer product. Uh, yeah. I don't even know if Eddie Bauer still exists. I don't either. Um, but I've had them for more than 25 years.

Uh, and yeah, they're going strong. Going good. You're doing good. Yeah. Yep. Alright, so, um, what we have to get done today, we have to invoice for those events. That's the first thing I'm gonna do. The second thing I'm going to do is get all of the new projects into Monday. Absolutely have to get that done.

I'm gonna work on some laundry and uh, and hopefully by the end of the day, I'm at least gonna get the outline done for the pitch decks. Excellent. Um, That's my day hasn't quite been 25 years. I had them for more than 20 years. Yeah. I've had them for a long time. Not quite 25 years. We were, we bought them in Seattle, so Yeah.

They're pre-law school, Michael. They're pre-law school. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they're, um, I think they're, uh, pre clones even. Uh, or pre menace. Possibly. Yeah. Yeah. Pre menace. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Pre menace. Pre menace, possibly pre menace, right? Yeah. I'm thinking maybe closer to 2000 though, but yeah, right around there, so, mm-hmm.

Yeah. Okay. Anyway, more than 20 years, so, and so the sweater that you're wearing right now, I bought you probably seven or eight years ago, maybe longer. Sounds about right. And the shorts you're wearing right now, you, my mother gave to you. So you're wearing your mother-in-law's shorts? No, I'm, these are my sort of adaptive father-in-law's, shorts.

Those are your main shorts? These are Howard's. Oh, oh, they are? Yeah. Yeah. These, oh, how is my stepfather? The deck was built. Oh, sweet. In these? Yes. Nice. Yep. Okay. All right. Good. Good. Excellent. Yes. Thanks. Put it, talk to you later. Go walk the dogs. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay, so now I need, I need you to teach me how to get this off of this machine.

I mean, this machine is old. Does it have like a little SD card in it or something? So am I gonna have to pull that out, put it into my laptop, and then upload it to wherever I'm gonna store it? I wanna do all the editing. Yeah. Yeah. You know, once it's stored, wherever I'm gonna store it. We used to do all the editing, uh, on a PC based.

Yeah. Yeah. So you're gonna show me how to. Pull this out, and then at that point, you know what I could do is I could rename it in the cloud and then I don't, and then I can just erase it and then just do PR J 0 0 1 over and over and over again. That would probably be the easiest. You can, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

No, you can always play file. All right. Excellent. Thank you.